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This episode gave us more answers: how did they persuade Peter, how did the other Walter find out about the other universe..
Poor Walter(s): our Walter will always have the burden of being the one who destroyed the equilibrium, Walternative's life completely changed after the kidnapping.
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Subject 13 (S03E15) is the fifteenth episode of season three of "Fringe" released on Fri F... More Subject 13 (S03E15) is the fifteenth episode of season three of "Fringe" released on Fri Feb 25, 2011. Over 1,290 TV Time users rated it a 8.26/10 with their favorite characters being John Noble as Walter Bishop, Anna Torv as Olivia Dunham and Joshua Jackson as Peter Bishop.
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July 2015

This episode gave us more answers: how did they persuade Peter, how did the other Walter find out about the other universe..
Poor Walter(s): our Walter will always have the burden of being the one who destroyed the equilibrium, Walternative's life completely changed after the kidnapping.
Olivia and Peter first met was so cute:))

This episode gave us more answers: how did they persuade Peter, how did the other Walter find out about the other universe..
Poor Walter(s): our Walter will always have the burden of being the one who destroyed the equilibrium, Walternative's life completely changed after the kidnapping.
Olivia and Peter first met was so cute:))
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July 2015

OTP since day one.

OTP since day one.
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April 2016

This scene was a heartbreaking.

This scene was a heartbreaking.
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January 2017

In love since they were kids! 😍😍❤️

In love since they were kids! 😍😍❤️
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November 2014

Mi domando com'è possibile che Peter e Olivia non ricordino nulla della loro infanzia e del fatto di essersi già conosciuti.

I wonder how is it that Peter and Olivia do not remember anything of their childhood and the fact that he had already known.

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Mi domando com'è possibile che Peter e Olivia non ricordino nulla della loro infanzia e del fatto di essersi già conosciuti.
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April 2016

I loved the episode, all that inicial love of Olivia and Peter and their individual dramas; He missing his home and she suffering in hers.
But something that really caught my attention was the opening and how we can see written things that seemed like fringe science back in the 80's but that are quite common now.

I loved the episode, all that inicial love of Olivia and Peter and their individual dramas; He missing his home and she suffering in hers.
But something that really caught my attention was the opening and how we can see written things that seemed like fringe science back in the 80's but that are quite common now.
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October 2015

EXISTE DESTINO EM FRINGE??? PQ PETER E A OLIVIA................

THERE IS DESTINY IN FRINGE ??? PQ PETER AND OLIVIA ................

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EXISTE DESTINO EM FRINGE??? PQ PETER E A OLIVIA................
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November 2016

How did Walter make Peter and Olivia forget all of this?

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October 2015

Você pode fazer oq quiser, Walternativo. Eu não gosto de vc!

You can do the q want, Walternate. I dont like you!

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Você pode fazer oq quiser, Walternativo. Eu não gosto de vc!
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September 2016

Quando si dice amore a prima vista.
😍😍😂

Quando si dice amore a prima vista.
😍😍😂
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July 2016

EU AMO TANTO QUANDO A ABERTURA MUDA DE ACORDO COM O LOCAL DO EPISÓDIO AAAAAAA

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February 2016

Olivia, te amo desde a infância depois desse episódio

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June 2016

A razão mais provável para que explique como o Peter e à Olivia não se lembram desse fragmento do passado é porque eles foram treinados para esquecer ou devem ter tomado algum tipo de proteína de esquecimento. Lembro do Nick Lane ter mencionado algo do tipo na primeira temporada, é por isso que Olivia não se lembrava dele antes, assim como o Walter e o Peter e vice-versa. Walter teve partes removidas de seu cérebro, e muitas dessas partes continha informações valiosas e pode ser que Olivia poderia estar inserida em alguma delas. Já Peter é o mais incerto de todos, mas é mais maleável acreditar que Walter deve ter trabalhado com ele para que ele esquecesse.

Esse capítulo inclusive é muito valioso, qualquer um que trabalhe fendas do passado é considerado um dos melhores para mim. A partir dele já começamos a entender o tal remorso que Elizabeth teve sobre a mentira que Walter nutria, sobre ter raptado o Peter do outro universo. O fato dele ter a capacidade de respirar novamente, de estar vivo pode ser reconfortante para ela, mas não tanto quanto a angústia que ela deve ter sentido pelos os pais do universo paralelo ao terem perdido ele. Antes o ego de Walter poderia ter se preponderado em certo ponto da história, tivemos aquele certo sentimento de que ele ficou com ele por puro egoismo, mas a história é outra, Walter viu que Elizabeth não poderia perder o Peter novamente e ele cedeu completamente a esse sentimento maternal dela. No entanto, ninguém consegue viver com mentiras e isso deve ter devastado ela durante anos, como vimos, até o casamento dela com Walter foi afetado. Nos últimos momentos, vemos o sentimento dela de mãe aflorar ao mesmo tempo em medo e emoção, por Peter pela primeira vez a ter chamado de mãe, e assim a ter aceitado. Muito do que Peter disse dela ter cometido suicídio pode ter culminado aí, ela não conseguiu conviver com as mentiras.

Entre outros pontos importantes do capítulo, ele deu a resposta de que a transição da Olivia entre os universos foi responsável pelo o Walternativo ter achado o Peter. São essas e outras que as conexões são completadas na história.

Nota: Bishop Dynamic seria a Massive Dynamic? E o que aconteceu com ela, ainda existe? Será que a pirotecnia da Olivia resultou em estragos no laboratório do Walternativo?

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January 2015

O sea que Olivia posee una excelente memoria fotográfica pero no se acuerda de todo lo que le sucedió de pequeña. Ok.

So that Olivia has an excellent photographic memory but does not remember what happened a child. Ok.

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July 2017

You know, for an episode without Anna Torv and Joshua Jackson, I think this might be in my top Fringe episodes ever. I'm still stunned after watching this episode because it was excellent from beginning to end. The acting, the story, the emotions, the directing, the cinematography, the writing...this is definitely another perfect Fringe episode (of which there are many). Kudos to John Noble, Orla Brady, and the two kids who played Olivia and Peter. Wonderful work from all of them.

We knew that Olivia's stepdad was a horrible man, but did we know that he beat her when she was that young? I'm thinking to myself how else can the writers make Olivia's backstory more tragic and they have her stepdad be abusive towards her. This is not a complaint, but merely an observation. Maybe Walter's threat against her stepdad really made him stop abusing her so he turned his violent tendencies towards Olivia's mother. I can definitely see this happening.

Olivia crossing over to the other side without realizing and cluing in Walternate that there is an alternate universe and that this is where Peter was taken to made my jaw drop. Yes, I've said it a million times before that this is not the first time I've watched this show, but I must have forgotten that it was Olivia who provided Walternate the answer as to what happened to Peter.

What a powerfully emotional scene this was. It definitely made me bawl my eyes out when Olivia was pleading Walternate to make her stepdad stop hitting her: "Can you make him stop hitting me, please?" Fucking broke my heart.

Continuing on this note, I couldn't believe that Walter would risk having Olivia live with her stepdad knowing that he's abusing her just so his experiment about enhancing her ability to cross over will manifest itself if her home life includes fear (from her stepdad) and love (from her mother). I was appalled that he would do this, as was Elizabeth.

The Peter and Olivia scene in the field of tulips was beautiful and showed their connection from the beginning. Peter tells Olivia that she needs to tell Walter because that's the only way that her circumstances will change. Interesting that Peter didn't reply when Olivia asked him if he trusts Walter. Also interesting that he stopped himself from calling Elizabeth "mom" at first, but then says it again this time more firmly.

It saddens me to think that Peter just gave up on insisting that he's not from here and that the Bishops are not his real parents because he's tired of fighting it. He figures that he's never going to go home so he might as well make the best out of the situation. I'm guessing that he doesn't remember the first few months after he was taken because it was so traumatic for him to process that he just blocked out all those unhappy memories.

After Peter calls Elizabeth "mom", I think that's the moment where Elizabeth completely unravels and her conscience starts to gnaw at her. It should have made her happy that Peter finally relented and is believing what they've been feeding him all this time, but her guilt was too much that she can't bear to be called "mom" by this Peter. How heartbreaking is that?

Meanwhile, the AltBishops in the alternate universe are still absolutely devastated months after Peter's disappearance that their marriage has suffered as a result and this drove Walternate to drink (interesting that in our universe, it's Elizabeth who started drinking). AltElizabeth pleading with Walternate that they need to stick together because she can't afford to lose him too was really sad especially when we find out that Walternate left the morning after to go back to Florida anyway.

Other random observations:

- That opening scene with Peter breaking the ice in Reiden Lake and tying himself to a block of cement was so devastating to watch.

- Loved the return of the groovy 80s opening credits.

- Did anyone else notice that this episode seemed blurrier, that maybe the editing team was employing some kind of effect so that this episode would look older? I thought that was cool.

- Nice callback to the White Tulip episode when we see Peter and Olivia in a field of white tulips.

- "I'm compiling some videos on my new Betamax." This made me laugh. Walter being excited to use his new Betamax, lol.

- How cute were Nick and Olivia in this episode? I loved it when he was looking at her through the door window and then runs away when Walter sees him.

- "Dr. Bishop, the architect of the Star Wars Defense System that protects our nation..." - Oh, show. You are too much! Just can't help yourself with the awesome geeky shoutouts, can you?

- So we have Bishop Dynamic on the other side instead of Massive Dynamic. Very cool. Seems like the company was specializing in space and aeronautics so is it safe to assume this is their version of NASA?

- "The beguiling Olivia Dunham beguiles" - This made me smile.

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March 2017

Walter Bishop, such an amazing character

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